Curse

Rothan Celt · Aug 22, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

lol i remembered when i swore in front of my paras before

i was very disappointed in the outcome they just said watch thou language. No spanking or sending to the bedroom just that

Oh and anyway Freedom of speech does not work it really does not

and while im on the matter most peeps are not as 'Free' as they think England has a large amount of CCTV USA has crazy laws and barriers.
( i got done in for jaywalking or whatever its called..... wtf why can't i cross the road there

) Anyways the option for verbal abuse is not going its staying put no ones going to listen to this QQ thread.

( I realize the irony that i was 'QQing' earlier in my post so dnt point that out

)

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

ie: young and stupid and think they have stupid rights.

In America.

I know this might come as a surprise to you, but there are still many many many many many many many many many many many many countries out there that do not have the freedom of speech, and amazingly enough, the Internet is not a country. Now, I know I just blew your mind with that last statement (especially since you're 18.) so I'll repeat: the Internet is not a country.

Free speech does not transfer over to the Internet. If it did, you'd be able to pretty much flame everyone everywhere. The amazing thing is, you can talk about nearly anything you want on the Internet...in your own webspace. Since no one country "owns the Internet" (and god help us all if one country did, they'd control the entire information flow of the whole world.), it is up to the owner of each thing on the Internet to set their own rules. ArenaNet sets theirs. Guru sets theirs. You can set yours on your own web space (within certain rules, namely if your IP is American and you upload child porn and someone finds out you can get screwed because there is Worldwide Cyber laws.).

Before I take my leave, I'll just blow your mind some more and let you know that you do not own your Guild Wars account, you just paid 50-250+$ to be given a license by ArenaNet to lease out the ability to join their servers. Not only do they own your account, all your characters, all your items, all your money, etc, but all you own is the box and CD and manual.

If ArenaNet wanted to they could ban you for using the letter E too much and you couldn't do jack shit about it (they are covered in any court by their EULA, nothing would stop them except no one would buy their games, but the point is they can.)

kthnx.

The Chat Filter can be worked around, which is mostly what the report is for.

Guess no one thinks of this when it happens quite a lot.

Lol sure they have the power to ban you for what ever thats like saying the people who make your food at a restuarant can do whatever they want. The people wont spit in your food and anet wont ban you for using the letter E too much cuz they dont wanna piss you off. They want you to keep playing and keep giving them money. Sure we all realize they CAN ban us and such because they have the power we do realize that god damn cripple. We are simply saying they are doing it for the wrong reasons and they think they have logic behind it. Banning people because 1 annoy'd person got a bunch of friends to report them too is wrong. Now if you turn your chat filter off you need to expect to be offended. Its like if u go into LA dis 1 and see some 1 spamming the N word u have the right to be offended but if u had your chat filter on in the first place u wouldnt even have seen it. So now what? Chat Fitler on for you shelted idiots. Thats all period.
kkthnx

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

You lost all credibility right there.

Edit: DarkNecrid explains it.

Guess you have credibility because you're older and you gues wiser? old man playing video game has credibilty? i think not

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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But if you can be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language. Anet aint going to ban all of them. And what I'm trying to say is they shouldn't ban them all anyway. Using that language should be fine as long as it isn't actually targetting someone/offending someone. Yeah, you can say that just saying the word offends people but then we have chat filters. If people are getting around them, then yeap go ahead and ban them, they are going around a filter designed to protect fragile people such as yourselves. But people just using a word like that once and awhile when it slips out shouldn't have to put up with a three day ban.

Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:29 AM // 08:29

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

If you are 18 and still ask this question and argue to have the right to "speech" but the "speech" is only to use the F--K word then you seriously need to not THINK OF YOURSELF ONLY and start thinking of other people.

He's simply saying that he is old enough to swear and shouldnt have to tell the young players to *ear muffs* when he wants to say FCUK when some rambo warrior thinks he can take on 5 mobs? He was old enough to thoughtfully take off the filter and play at the adult level and even adults swear in fusteration. So it all comes back to the chat filter and taking it off it thinkin strictly about yourself because you think you're old enough and mature enough to deal with all the randoms across the world spraying the chats with their swearing and their oppinions. Maybe you should think about other people when you post these dumbass posts? Think about the time we gotta go to read through your crap then just think...wtf? Stop wasting our time and go play with legos

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.

Oh god I really did lol here. Seriously I have no idea what to say to someone who thinks the Internet is full of good natured, caring and passive minded people.

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.

Not everyone swears and when they dont swear its usually cuz they find it offensive so they are the ones who should have their chat filter on. Self control to what? not swear over the internet? Self control comes in play irl on a video game u dont step away from your keyboard and count to 3 cuz ur angry at stupid people in the game. You're aloud to express yourself cuz its a game. So maybe u should control urself and stop posting stupid crap

fenix · Aug 22, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

They have a swear filter. F-ck being banned for saying f-ck or whatever else, when it's easily avoidable with the filter.

If you're that much of a carebear, or are underaged, just turn it on and forget about it. Stop trying to ULGG up the game with fail.

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by QUAS_Daemon

Not everyone swears and when they dont swear its usually cuz they find it offensive so they are the ones who should have their chat filter on. Self control to what? not swear over the internet? Self control comes in play irl on a video game u dont step away from your keyboard and count to 3 cuz ur angry at stupid people in the game. You're aloud to express yourself cuz its a game. So maybe u should control urself and stop posting stupid crap

The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.

stale · Aug 22, 2008, 08:42 AM // 08:42

other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.

I don't say anything on the internet I wouldn't say in real life. You seem to think we want to go around cursing everyone. I'm sick of repeating myself to people who don't want to read. You know what I think of when I see you post?
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical..._syndrome.html

P.S Angry German Kid was fake, he did it to troll gullible people like yourself.

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45

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Originally Posted by stale

other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....

Wow it seems I'm just repeating myself constantly. Please read the thread before you talk. Every point you just said has not only been covered, but been replied to already. Just wow.

Not only have I explained the type of people reporting us, it's an incredible double-standard that you like to hear some people swearing while others you can't stand. I'm not saying go around and swear your heart out, I'm saying that I can use it in situations exactly as you described, and if people wish to get offended by comments not even directed to them they shouldn't be allowed to ban someone for it.

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.

people can control themselfs around young people much like when your around children u can control yourself not to swear, but when there is a chat filter for kids of like 14 (usually used to swearing) and rest of people older than that i don't think u need to control urself around them. Now we talking about self control but u say u punch ppl in the face when they yell at u maybe u need look more into self control if u cant control urself from punching people? Thats like saying u go to a bar and control urself from swearing? This game is rated T for Teen thats 13++ if im right and most people have heard swearing by the age of thirteen and are used to it. Unless your a sheltered religious person and if so why would you turn off the chat filter? Why are WE the ones who must control ourselfs when they can just click a simple button and turn off all chat or even go and turn their chat filter on? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9IN...eature=related Unless you want everyone soundling like this just cuz they got self control then you should just give in and say that they needa start using the chat filter so the rest of us can play in peace

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

I don't say anything on the internet I wouldn't say in real life. You seem to think we want to go around cursing everyone. I'm sick of repeating myself to people who don't want to read. You know what I think of when I see you post?
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical..._syndrome.html

P.S Angry German Kid was fake, he did it to troll gullible people like yourself.

No doubt in my mind that you deserved your ban. No doubt in my mind that you will have more in the future. No doubt in my mind that you cannot control yourself.

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

No doubt in my mind that you deserved your ban. No doubt in my mind that you will have more in the future. No doubt in my mind that you cannot control yourself.

No doubt in my mind that when you finally leave the basement and see the world, you're gonna retreat right back down there.

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by stale

other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....

Btw we PAID money to be in Anets house. Sure we must obey the rules but if they all of a sudden put a rule thats like No talking to any1 else in the game! This is now a single players game if u talk to sum1 ur banned, and they add in a TURN OFF ALL CHATS button and u turn that off and talk to sum1 and get banned isnt that YOUR fault for turning it off? and also thats a stupid rule people would protest or quit so yeah we're in their house but they cant screw us over or we are fcuking leaving... If they like to hear moderate cursing there are 2 levels off your chat filter Noraml and Maxium so they can do that. Or if they like to do SOME swearing in private chats then turn the other chats off? many flaws found in your dumbass post so please dont bother posting again.

Abedeus · Aug 22, 2008, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.

Chocobo1 · Aug 22, 2008, 09:03 AM // 09:03

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.

My responses alone should prove how much self control I have over you people who can't read the posts. Once again, I do not agree with outright offending people, I'm saying If I said a swear word once about some awful situation I was currently in, not directed at anyone, and someone willingly had the chat filter off they should not be able to ban me for it.

/endofcripplesthatcantread

QUAS_Daemon · Aug 22, 2008, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.

Sure but he wasnt talking so much about his rights but hes 18 an bought a T for Teen game meaning there should be some maturity, Not saying people who play games are. The fact that people can get banned for somthing that can be prevented by using the chat filter how it is intended is bullshit. Now if anet doesnt want to use their own shit then remove it so we can actually respect not swearing as long as it is easily avoided by chat filter and turning chats off then we shouldnt be punished. You deserve a helmet for a stupid post.

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

No doubt in my mind that when you finally leave the basement and see the world, you're gonna retreat right back down there.

Yes, like you know me. You know all about me based on my opposing view. You have learned enough about me in this silly thread to deduce that I live in a basement. Please.

Would it surprise you to know that I don't report people for foul language? Would it surprise you to know that I despise the existence of the FCC in my country (They control language in the media)? Would it surprise you to know that I occasionally use foul language myself when in company of people that I know are not offended by it's content?

I however support ANET's rules. It's their house. Live by their rules or suffer the consequences. They aren't vague about it. They even repeat themselves so to remove any doubt.